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 Post subject: Donnie Darko is really friggin good...
PostPosted: May 5th, 2002, 9:06 am 
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I got it from Netflix last week and i think i'm going to buy it as soon as i get out from my current "in between" jobs status. It's really cool and original and has an awesome 80s soundtrack. <p><center><font face="gothic" size=2 color="red">Somehow...we need to.....ORDER A PIZZA!!!<BR><BR><image src="http://www.bobanddavid.com/mrshow_archive/assets/seas304.jpg"> </font></center></p>


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 Post subject: Re: Donnie Darko is really friggin good...
PostPosted: May 5th, 2002, 9:32 pm 
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i agree...really good movie. jake gyllenhaal is great.


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me three. i liked it alot!


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 Post subject: Re: Donnie Darko is really friggin good...
PostPosted: July 14th, 2002, 10:55 pm 
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I think it was the best film of 2001 beating out, ironically TRT. It is one of the greatest motion pictures ever. Period.


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 Post subject: Re: Donnie Darko is really friggin good...
PostPosted: July 15th, 2002, 11:39 am 
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I liked Donnie Darko. As a new 'horror' movie, it was great -- Hollywood has been churning out a lot of silly teen screams lately, so this was refreshing. On Donnie Darko being a better film than TRT....hmmm. I wouldn't put them in the same category. TRT is great writing, meticulous art direction, set design, costume design, acting....you know. And Donnie Darko is great for scaring me, meticulous freaking me out, spook design and overall twisted scariness. I saw it a week ago and still think that Frank will be waiting for me in the hall. <p>

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 Post subject: Re: Donnie Darko is really friggin good...
PostPosted: July 15th, 2002, 12:35 pm 
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i did like Donnie Darko, but it made my head hurt trying to figure out what was actually happening. (the director's commentary on the DVD really helps out with that by the way).

maybe this is totally old news, if so i apologize, but i didn't find out til i watched the DVD that the lead singer of Phantom Planet plays the bad guy 'Seth' in the movie.


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 Post subject: The Ultimate Donnie Darko Spoiler Guide, SPOILERS!
PostPosted: July 15th, 2002, 3:45 pm 
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***SPOILERS GALORE!***SPOILERS GALORE!***SPOILERS GALORE!***SPOILERS GALORE!***SPOILERS GALORE!***SPOILERS GALORE!***SPOILERS GALORE!***
This is a re-post of something I wrote over at Flick Clack (which is being overhauled both thematically and visually) about my take on the events of Donnie Darko.

(Originally posted on 3/20/02 5:56:48 pm)
OK, I'm going to try to explain the events of the film in chronological order, if that's at all possible. I just watched the film again with the director's commentary, so I have a bit more insight. The following passage is a combination of the writer/director's words and my own interpretation.

10/2/88 12:00 AM

Frank-Bunny wakes up Donnie and leads him out of his room. This one action sets the events of the film into motion, and the fact that he leaves his room is what causes the plane's engine to travel back in time and crash through his bedroom.* There are forces at work here, and whether they are god, aliens, spirits of the universe or denizens of the fourth dimension is unexplained and ultimately inconsequential. The main point is this: the forces have decided to manipulate one Donald Darko by creating a path for him to follow and save the world.**

Everything Donnie does leads to another, from the sleep-golfing incident which sets everything off to the flooding of the school which helps him meet Gretchen. Then, he burns down Cunningham's house, which leads to his mother having to chaparone Sparkle Motion's trip, which leads to the party, which leads to his shooting Frank outside Grandma Death's house.

Within that sequence, Donnie gets the book Grandma Death wrote, which inspires him to write the letter that she is looking for throughout the entire movie. It's this letter which causes Frank to swerve around her and kill Gretchen. When Donnie shoots Frank, creating the image of the mutilated Frank-Bunny that has haunted him, he knows it is time to return to the cliff where he awoke in the beginning. He then, through powers given to him by these unknown forces (the same powers which allowed him to drive an axe into the head of a bronze statue, among other impossible things), creates the wormhole which causes the engine to fall through the house. When he finds himself there, the director states there are two valid interpretations of his laughter: either he believes everything was a dream, or he is enlightened to the forces which drove him.

Either way, it is my belief that he didn't have to die. When Frank honks his horn outside the house, moments before the engine crushes Donnie, he is trying to alert Donnie to the fact that he doesn't have to be there, warning him that the engine is on its way. It's a bit confusing, but apparently the "Tangent Universe" that was created the moment Donnie was woken up on October 2nd left residual memories in the minds of everyone that was touched by the events. Frank knows what is going to happen, and when he gets home, he sits, in wonder, touching his right eye with the fleeting feeling that he has avoided a gruesome fate.

On the Donnie Darko website, which itself is a password-encoded puzzle, there are numerous newspaper clippings and FAA reports revealing that the engine is indeed a caorbon copy of a jet engine from a plane that, in the "Tangent Universe", would have carried Sparke Motion to Star Search. The FAA studies it to no end, because it is the one paradox created by the tangent universe. Also, one reads that a number of people's lives are actually affected by the residual memories of the "Tangent Universe". Cunningham kills himself, cursed with the fear of being caught, and Noah Wyle's character is killed in a hit-and-run accident which may just be the universal force cleaning up anything that might reveal its plans and designs (since he had that book The Philosophy of Time Travel).

I suppose it could have been necessary for Donnie to die, if only for the fact that he had firsthand knowledge of the events. Maybe. Does any of this make sense? It's times like this I wish this board had blown up big, so I could see more than one or two opinions. But I treasure those I am able to see. Maybe a scary bunny will help me promote the board.

*Donnie, later on, insists that Frank-Bunny saved his life, but in fact if he had lain there in his room, asleep, the engine wouldn't have detached and the world would have literally ended on October 30th. The reason for this is unclear, and perhaps we can address that later on.

** Everything that happens in the film, between 10/2/88 and 10/30/88, occurs in what the filmmaker called a "tangent universe", which at the end is retraced and erased, leaving only the jet engine behind.

---Addendum---
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention (or so I think, I ain't reading over that monster again) that Frank-Bunny is not Frank. Frank-Bunny is a vision created to clue Donnie to the path he is meant to take. It's the vision that makes the most sense because he has little to no interaction with Frank until he shoots him, which creates a carbon copy of the Frank-Bunny. It is at this point he knows to go to the cliffside and "do his thing" whatever it was.

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 Post subject: Re: The Ultimate Donnie Darko Spoiler Guide, SPOILERS!
PostPosted: July 16th, 2002, 8:37 am 
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thanks for that analysis aenematron.

that's pretty much my understanding of the movie too, with one exception.

i think that Frank the Bunny is Frank. it was my understanding that Donnie is not the only one being manipulated. everyone that he comes into contact with is being manipulated, and helping to 'lead' donnie. (the director says something to this effect, about the therapist, and the teachers, all leading donnie--giving him clues). originally i didn't think that Frank the bunny and Frank were the same person, but after watching the director's commentary i think that they are. the 'forces' were using Frank to speak to donnie. this is complex, but i think of it like this: i think Frank the Bunny was possibly the main messenger, and it's possible that he's different from Frank, but in order for Donnie to 'see' him, he manifests himself in the person Frank, and kind of takes over--- so yes, they might be different, but Frank also does become Frank the Bunny.

does that make any sense? probably not. and i very well could be wrong; that was just my interpretation.


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 Post subject: Re: Donnie Darko is really friggin good...
PostPosted: July 18th, 2002, 4:02 pm 
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I'm glad most of us are understanding that this film is more than a 'scare' as Wait A Second Sally thinks. Not to be mean or anything I just hope Sally watches it with a new perspective. I agree with most of aenematron's theories, but you didn't point out a main element. When Donnie is following his path he never really understands why. There are only two things that help him: Frank and the portals he sees coming out of his family's chests. These portals show us that God is helping Donnie in his quest. He shows Donnie his destiny. This would only be true if Donnie travels within the portal, which he does. The conversations between him and Noah Wyle's character are very important.

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 Post subject: Re: Donnie Darko is really friggin good...
PostPosted: July 18th, 2002, 4:50 pm 
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Dignan19: My post's point was that I could not honestly say that Donnie Darko was a better movie than TRT because they are so different. That's it.

I <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--> did<!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> enjoy the movie on more than one level and appreciate everyone's insight on it. I just haven't posted anything else because I have nothing new to share. <p>

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 Post subject: Re: Donnie Darko is really friggin good...
PostPosted: July 18th, 2002, 9:23 pm 
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I watched it, and I really didn't like it. It just isn't as good as everyone thinks it is. There are more holes in the plot then a spaghetti strainer... <p><a href=http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mycollection.asp?alias=SolidSnakeASS>My DVDs</a></p>


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 Post subject: Re: Donnie Darko is really friggin good...
PostPosted: July 19th, 2002, 12:11 pm 
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Sorry Sally, I guess I read your post wrong. You are right they are very different movies, but I had to put them in order to make my top ten of 2001 list.


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 Post subject: Re: Donnie Darko is really friggin good...
PostPosted: July 19th, 2002, 1:32 pm 
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That's cool, dignan. Sometimes my thoughts just don't translate as well as I think they do.

Anyway! On with the thread... <p>

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 Post subject: Re: Donnie Darko is really friggin good...
PostPosted: July 20th, 2002, 1:03 pm 
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<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote>Quote:<hr> It just isn't as good as everyone thinks it is. There are more holes in the plot then a spaghetti strainer...<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->Well, you've made quite a bold statement there. Care to back it up? <p><HR>Check out <a href=http://db.etree.org/aenematron>My Show List</a>!<BR>---<BR>"This is a movie too. Cut, print, that's a wrap everybody. We're over budget, the trial scene's cut. See ya at the Oscars!"<BR>-"Robert Blake"</p>


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 Post subject: Re: Donnie Darko is really friggin good...
PostPosted: July 20th, 2002, 4:27 pm 
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In the end the girlfriend and that Mom share that point of connection, which was just bullshit because they had never even met in the first universe. The end was interesting or intense, instead it just seemed like a gimmicky cop-out. I know a lot of people love this movie, but it did nothing for me. <p><a href=http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mycollection.asp?alias=SolidSnakeASS>My DVDs</a></p>


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