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PostPosted: February 23rd, 2006, 9:16 pm 
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Danish flags are good, or posters reading "Stand By Denmark" and any variation on this theme (such as "Buy Carlsberg/ Havarti/ Lego")

Hey, you know what you could do as a sign of solidarity? Get yourself a little Lego man, glue a pinback to him, and wear him on your shirt. Make a bunch and pass 'em out!

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So I was reading some article about the Southpark creators the other day in some old magazine and I saw a quote from one (I forgot which) that pretty much sums up how I feel about politics...

(Regarding the concept "Southpark Republican":)

"Yeah, we have seen that. What we're sick of—and it's getting even worse—is: you either like Michael Moore or you wanna fuckin' go overseas and shoot Iraqis. There can't be a middle ground. Basically, if you think Michael Moore's full of shit, then you are a super-Christian right-wing whatever. And we're both just pretty middle-ground guys. We find just as many things to rip on on the left as we do on the right. People on the far left and the far right are the same exact person to us."

Moreover, this quote almost nails me exactly right now in my life(also from the same interview):

"I hate conservatives, but I really fucking hate liberals."

I know I'll probably get shit for it but that's how I feel..right in the middle. My friends are primarily liberal who seem to have good ideas but don't know shit about what to do with them except complain and my family is conservative where ideas/values seem limited but they know how to "carry them out."

I feel like I like some of the plans/ideas/values my friends talk about but they annoy me because I don't think they see the whole picture (I'm not saying I do either but they don't even want to think of the other possibilities), but then I feel like my parents (and rest of my family) have the seemingly right economical standpoint (we do fairly well) but don't really think about their actions...

So here I am stuck in the middle (no not libertarian-middle) and starting to care less about both the more I hear about it, ESPECIALLY in media, music, movies, ect...it's everywhere :roll:

ON EDIT: So I just got back from seeing "V for Vendetta" (which was overall pretty corny forgettable movie, an excuse for "The Matrix" to return except with knives) but my friends raved saying "Man it fits into pefectly with what's going on right now too!" I'm telling you it drives me right up the fucking wall...

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Well. I hope you feel better! I might make a guess that the liberals aren't feeling very wild about you, Mr. Fence-sitter Not Helping the Situation by Hating. Just a wild guess there.

About V for Vendetta, I found some appreciation of it if only for the Bono-grade politicking. (Which is DUH! to me, but could be a revealation to someone else, so I have to appreciate any thoughtful spark it adds to the landscape.)

I'd now like to credit BertieFischer for inspiring the phrase 'Bono-grade politicking.' I so rarely get to write "politicking" and I like that 'ck' action.

(If you don't remember, it has to do with Bert comparing some of the U2ness to a "mean people suck" bumper sticker.) (Eheheh.)


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Nah I don't feel anybetter, like I said I feel like the only one that kinda feels both ways (and both ways are not particularly good) but it's as if I'm socially being forced one way or another...yeah like I said I realized I'd probably get shit for it here, but whatever I saw that quote and that's how I feel right now.

Mr. Fence-sitter Not Helping the Situation by Hating


So I am to be pushed off the fence one way or there other forcefully to the ground and told to shut up about how I feel about the other side of the fence because of the side I was pushed onto? I guess it's not hate really now, it's great annoyance...

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Generally, at least when Andrew Sullivan uses the term (he claims he coined it), "South Park Republican" does not refer to the uber-right Christianists in the GOP. Sullivan calls himself a South Park Republican. He's a gay HIV-positive Catholic who firmly supports a wall of separation between church and state and wants gay marriage. But he's conservative on the economy and foreign policy. Lately he's been blogging about the scientology episode scandal (Comedy Central pulled a rerun of the Tom Cruise episode).

I can't help but think that Trey and Matt are poking fun at the public's conception of political ideology by saying they are middle-ground. They aren't. Not even close.

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Double, but I had to after reading this quote, co-authored by Supreme Court Justices Kennedy, Souter, and O'Connor (although I'd bet it is Kennedy's language):
"At the heart of liberty is the right to define one's own concept of existence, of meaning, of the universe, and of the mystery of human life. Beliefs about these matters could not define the attributes of personhood were they formed under compulsion of the State."
How excellent.

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Trips, but necessary. An e-mail I just got from a friend:
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
NEWS CONFERENCE
Sunday, April 9, 2006
12:00 p.m.
Our Lady of Guadalupe Church
710 S. Sultana Ave., Ontario, CA 91761
Louise Corales, whose 14 year-old son, Anthony
Soltero, died on April 1 after committing suicide,
will speak to the community and ask for a prayer for
her son this Sunday, following the 11:00 a.m. mass at
Our Lady of Guadalupe Church in Ontario, California.
Eighth grader Anthony Soltero shot himself through
the head on Thursday, March 30, after the assistant
principal at De Anza Middle School told him that he
was going to prison for three years because of his
involvement as an organizer of the April 28 school
walk-outs to protest the anti-immigrant legislation in
Washington. The vice principal also forbade Anthony
from attending graduation activities and threatened to
fine his mother for Anthony's truancy and
participation in the student protests.
"Anthony was learning about the importance of civic
duties and rights in his eighth grade class.
Ironically, he died because the vice principal at his
school threatened him for speaking out and exercising
those rights," Ms. Corales said today. "I want to
speak out to other parents, whose children are
attending the continuing protests this week. We have
to let the schools know that they can't punish our
children for exercising their rights."
Anthony's death is likely the first fatality arising
from the protests against the immigration legislation
being considered in Washington, D.C. Anthony, who was
a very good student at De Anza Middle School in the
Ontario-Montclair School District, believed in justice
and was passionate about the immigration issue. He is
survived by his mother, Louise Corales, his father, a
younger sister, and a baby brother.
Ms. Corales will speak to the community after mass on
Sunday, April 9, 2006 at 12:00 p.m. at Our Lady of
Guadalupe Church. She will ask for a prayer for
Anthony, whose funeral and burial are scheduled for
Monday, April 10 in Long Beach, where he was born.
CONTACT: R. SAMUEL PAZ
(310) 410-2981
(310) 989-6815

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Jesus Christ, Kumar.* :cry:


*Aimed not at you, but the situation.

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 Post subject: Re: All things political (formerly election 2004)
PostPosted: July 11th, 2007, 11:28 am 
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Effing hypocrite.

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 Post subject: Re: All things political (formerly election 2004)
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I don't know him. And, there is no real content on the page you linked to. Did they move or delete it?

Man, he does have a elongated head though. That alone is suspect.


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 Post subject: Re: All things political (formerly election 2004)
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Shoot. No, he's not the hypocrite, he's the writer -- the content is now subscription-only, I think. It was a post about Senator David Vitter, one of the sponsors of the gay marriage ban.

He's on the Washington D.C. madam's phone list, and he had a lengthy affair with a prostitute in Louisiana, then ran for office as a "family values" guy.

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 Post subject: Re: All things political (formerly election 2004)
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Ah, Vitter. And, of course, as the media suggests, Conservatives are really upset about his betrayal. Not sexed-up, atheist, homo-abortionist lefties though. They love it.

I haven't read much about the Vitter case, actually. I assumed someone big would show up on her list eventually. And, I was pretty sure our glammed up friend irony would make it be a Con.


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 Post subject: Re: All things political (formerly election 2004)
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Primaries 2008
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Who are you voting for/did you vote for and why?


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 Post subject: Re: All things political (formerly election 2004)
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obama because he speaks so well. i definitely agree with democrats more than republicans, so my final vote will go for the democratic candidate. to pick now, though, i want barack obama to lead the country

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 Post subject: Re: All things political (formerly election 2004)
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Unfortunately I cannot vote in the US. If I could I would vote for Obama, I think it's great he won the primaries. I think he's very inspiring, trustworthy and intelligent. I read his book 'dreams from my father', because I know a lot of people in Kenya, I was interested in Obama's Kenya connection. I have to say: he's a great writer too!

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